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凭常识看方舟子对钱学森的恶毒

 
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凭常识看方舟子对钱学森的恶毒

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作者: 黎阳(魏.国.洁.株) [172027:5118], 19:11:50 09/29/2010:
- 论剑谈棋 豪杰尽聚 - 华岳论坛 - http://hua-yue.net/



凭常识看方舟子对钱学森的恶毒


黎阳


2010.9.29.


假如你死了亲人,一家子正在悲伤,突然跑来一伙人,领头的说:你的这亲人有什么什么毛病,这辈子干过什么什么坏事,把你的亲人从小到老全数落一遍,说成个一辈子没干好事专干坏事、全身是毛病(而且全是按他订出的标准编出来的毛病)的混帐王八蛋。你全家跟他急,他却说:人无完人,我这是实事求是,我这人有洁癖,疾假如仇,讲的全是事实,你不能制止我实事求是……他同伙的人也跟着起哄说,对呀对呀,你这个亲人本来就有些让人议论的地方,我们老大没说错啊。所以你亲人死了不该哀思,而该算总帐,清算一辈子,只算坏事不算好事;不该开追悼会,而该开批判会,这才叫理性科学实事求是——你会如何感受? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


有人会说,你这是瞎编。不管中国人还是外国人,人之常情是“死者为大”,只要不是十恶不赦的罪犯,人一去世大家都会只回忆他好的一面,至少不会在人家的丧期专门挑人家的毛病,哪有人刚死偏偏专门说死人坏话的?更不用说践踏人家的哀思,把追悼会变成控诉批判会了。这种逻辑如果成立,那谁家死人都就得把死者一辈子骂个遍,家属也别哀思哀悼了,谁死开谁的揭发批判控诉会得了,否则就破坏了“实事求是”——人无完人嘛!谁没缺点错误?有缺点错误就得“公布真相”,否则就破坏了人家的“洁癖”、“疾假如仇”、“追求真相”——现实生活中有这样蛮横不讲理的流氓吗? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


谁说没有?远在天边,近在眼前,不是别人,乃如今中国媒体大红人方舟子是也。


钱学森2009年10月31日去世。2009年11月4日(仅仅四天),方舟子便发表了“《人民科学家钱学森》若干可商榷之处”,对钱老一生半句肯定没有,而是竭尽讽刺挖苦之能事拼命贬损。(XYS20091104)http://xys4.dxiong.com/xys/netters/Fang-Zhouzi/blog/qianxuesen.txt ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


且不说是钱老,就是平常老百姓,去世还没过“头七”就跳出来把死者一生骂个遍——凭常识,这有起码的尊重吗?如果这叫“实事求是”,那赶明儿你家办红白喜事我也找一帮人上门去“尊重事实”一番如何?


对中国人说,凭钱老一生对中国人的贡献足以对钱老“盖棺论定”。方舟子却说,不行,做出来的贡献不算数,说出的话才算数;看人不看做得多漂亮,而要看说得多漂亮;评价钱老不准看钱老做过什么,而必须根据我方舟子提供的资料、根据我立方舟子立下的标准看钱老说过什么——根据我方舟子立下的标准钱老说过什么什么错话,所以必须死后鞭尸,不得哀思;而方舟子的标准则是美国自己都承认的政治迫害的麦卡锡时代的“官方凭证”,所以钱老一去世方舟子立刻跳出来大骂钱老,他的娄罗也跟着起哄架秧子:“钱学森本来就有些让人议论的地方。方舟子没说错啊。”——凭中国人起码的道德和常识,无视钱老对中国的贡献,人家去世才四天就跳出来胡搅蛮缠要鞭尸的这些家伙有点人味没有?恶毒不恶毒? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


再看一个常识性问题:假如你我两人私下聊天,说过什么什么话,我把谈话内容写下来就算数,你写就不算数,我不写你就不能写,否则就算“空口无凭”、“没有文字资料”,不能当回事——同样的谈话内容,我写下来就不算“空口无凭”、“没有文字资料”,你写就算——有这个道理吗?偏偏就有,这就是方舟子的逻辑——据方舟子说,冯.卡门没有把与钱学森的谈话写下来,因此他与钱学森的谈话就属于“不见于冯.卡门的回忆录或文字材料,从上下文看大概是钱本人转述的。对这种空口无凭的私下交谈,当事人激动可以,别人最好还是不要太当回事。”——同样的私下谈话,洋人写出来时不也属于“没有文字材料”的“空口无凭”吗?为什么洋人写得,中国人就写不得?洋人写了就算“文字资料”,洋人没写中国人写了就算“空口无凭”、“没有文字材料”,就算吹牛造谣?——方舟子这叫什么逻辑? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


难怪方舟子一口咬定中医是伪科学:因为洋人没发话——废话不废话?中医是给中国人看病看出来的,不是给洋人看病看出来的。中国人几千年来靠中医治病治出来的实践都不算数,非洋人的话才算数;中国的事中国人没资格评论,非洋人才有资格评论——方舟子这叫什么逻辑?照此逻辑,中文算不算文字是不是也得洋人说了算?方舟子是不是人是不是也得洋人出证明?换句话说,如果方舟子拿不出美国政府证明他是人的“人证”,那就不能断定他是人是狗。那样一来,肖传国顶多不过是请人打狗,何罪之有? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


顺便说一句,针灸算不算中医的一部分?如果不算,那算什么医?如果算,针灸在美国可早就合法化了,已经纳入了正式的医疗保险体系。按方舟子的逻辑,中医是“伪科学”,那针灸岂不是“伪科学”的一部分?美国政府岂不带头批准了“伪科学”?方舟子对美国的一切那么熟悉,为什么大骂中医是“伪科学”时对此只字不提呢?怎么这会儿不运用他“美国批准的才算数”的逻辑了?这算不算他痛骂的“利用国内外的信息差,和普通公众不懂外语的这种信息不对称的状态”到中国招摇撞骗的卑鄙行为呢? ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


再顺便说一句:针灸在美国合法化要感谢毛泽东——1971年(“十年动乱”的文化大革命中!),中国向世界公开宣布针刺麻醉成功的消息,打破了西方医学家的思维模式。西方医学界开始较积极地接触中国医学,热烈地学习研究起来,拉开了“中国针灸热”的序幕。1972年2月,美国总统尼克松访华,其随行医师W. TKACH亲自领教了中医针灸的神奇,回国后大力推崇中医针灸的优良疗效,就这样再把“中国针灸热”推向高峰。为了配合当时的政治气氛,也正好借此讨好中国,加上在美华人的不懈争取,美国政府终于较快地为针灸开了绿灯,1975年(距尼克松访华仅仅三年!)针灸在美国正式开始合法化。(注:这可是“崩溃的边缘”年代的事,跟“科学的春天”半点不相干。那个时代是美国讨好中国,以学中国技艺为荣,如今呢?) ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


能救人的中医、地震预报被方舟子骂成“伪科学”,能害人的转基因主粮、可疑疫苗被方舟子捧成“真科学”;方舟子死打的是能救命的东西,死捧的是能致命的东西;专打对中国有贡献有好处的,专护对中国有危险有毒害的;把“死”塞过来,把“生”夺过去——这就是看方舟子时应有的常识:送死夺生,凶神恶煞,夺命无常,阎王代理,如此而已。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


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谢谢先生用功,我已改题贴上我的WY博。/no_text - 好主见 21:47:47 09/29/2010
前辈好文章! - 尘世看客 06:39:58 09/30/2010
方舟子这样的小人,太欺负我中华无人了 - shandong 08:42:07 09/30/2010
31位国际学术同仁声援肖传国医生的公开信 - 凸显方狗无耻 08:51:48 09/30/2010
国际学术同仁声援肖传国医生的公开信 译文 - 凸显方狗无耻 08:55:43 09/30/2010
方舟子学术抄袭在前, 被告诽谤获罪在前, 该报复的是方,所以袭击案必然是假 - 香椿树 09:28:38 09/30/2010
我个人感觉这个事件也就是方给肖下的一个套,作案人马都是方安排好 - 插一句 09:47:33 09/30/2010



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谢谢先生用功,我已改题贴上我的WY博。/no_text
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前辈好文章!
前辈好文章!痛快!已贴在新浪爱问,目前还没被删。张文木那篇被删好多次。
[ 2:73 ] 尘世看客(辽.庄.之.贝) - 06:39:58 09/30/2010 *** 回 帖


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方舟子这样的小人,太欺负我中华无人了
大家应该呼吁中国政府深刻调查方舟子的资金来源,及其背后的支持者。

[ 3:65 ] shandong(蜀.宫.甘.柏) - 08:42:07 09/30/2010 *** 回 帖


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31位国际学术同仁声援肖传国医生的公开信
Open letter in support of Chuan-Guo Xiao, MFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat




September 29, 2010


To all:
We have all had the pleasure of knowing Dr. Chuan-Guo Xiao for many years. He is an internationally respected surgeon-scientist who has made major advances in the development of neuroregeneration to restore voiding and bowel function. Dr. Xiao performed groundbreaking animal research in the United States, demonstrating that a motor nerve that innervates the leg can be used to reinnervate the bladder and bowel. This reinnervation allows for development of a reflex to initiate bladder function. The results of his studies were published in peer-reviewed journals and other scientists have replicated Xiao’s findings confirming these results.


Dr. Xiao eventually took the courageous step of moving from animal research to human studies and began performing the rerouting procedure on patients with spinal cord injury and spina bifida in China. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Neurogenic bladder is life threatening in China due to a lack of both antimuscarinics and intermittent catheterization, and lessening the complications of neurogenic bladder would be considered a lifesaving success. Patients with neurogenic bladder and bowel suffer greatly and endure a host of issues such as urinary retention, incontinence, recurrent infections, renal insufficiency, fecal incontinence, constipation, and poor quality of life. For a procedure as complicated as nerve rerouting requiring nerve regeneration, one cannot expect normalization of bladder and bowel function to be the definition of success. What is important is that the benefits outweigh the risks of the procedure.


Dr. Xiao published his clinical results in peer-reviewed journals and was twice honored by the Jack Lapides Essay Contest, one of the most respected international awards given to scientists who make major contributions to the field of neurourology. In 2008, he was named the Kelm Hjalmas Memorial Lecturer from the International Children’s Continence Society for his scientific achievements. Many of us have traveled to China to examine patients treated by Dr. Xiao and/or have been trained by him in the nerve rerouting surgery he invented. Dr. Xiao is a very skilled surgeon who is passionate about patient care and works tirelessly to train physicians around the world in performing his nerve rerouting procedure. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


In the United States, an independent and very rigorous pilot research trial was performed to test the safety and efficacy of this procedure. The one-year results were recently published in the Journal of Urology. At the 12-month follow-up visit, a cutaneous to bladder reflex was found in 7 of 9 spina bifida patients, confirming that rerouting does occur. This finding by itself is remarkable and Dr. Xiao should be commended. In addition, a number of patients demonstrated improvement in bladder and bowel function, which has continued to improve with longer patient follow-up. The 36-month results are currently being analyzed and will be reported in the near future. The pilot data was supportive of Dr. Xiao’s procedure, and now an NIH sponsored clinical trial is being conducted to further study lumbar to sacral nerve rerouting in spina bifida patients. In addition, similar procedures have been done worldwide, with Dr. Xiao helping to mentor the surgeons at each site. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


The Chinese people and government should be proud of Dr. Xiao for his dedication to his patients, his scientific achievements, and his willingness to train doctors around the world how to perform his surgery. The International scientific community was shocked to hear of Dr. Xiao’s arrest. Those of us who know Dr. Xiao well find it difficult to believe that he is involved in these attacks. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


Dr. Xiao is a compassionate man who is respected worldwide for his integrity and his innovative scientific contributions to society. We implore the Chinese government and authorities to treat Dr. Xiao fairly and to protect his human rights as these charges are investigated. Please strongly consider Dr. Xiao’s scientific and humanitarian contributions to the world as facts are gathered in this case. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"




Sincerely,




Kenneth M. Peters, MD
Professor and Chairman of Urology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan


Jack S. Elder, M.D.
Chief of Urology, Henry Ford Health System
Associate Director, Vattikuti Urology Institute
Department of Urology, Children's Hospital of Michigan
Clinical Professor of Urology, Case School of Medicine


Edwin A. Smith M.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor of Urology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, Georgia


Kevin M. Feber, MD, FAAP
Board Certified in Pediatric Urology
Comprehensive Urology
William Beaumont Children's Hospital


Ananias C. Diokno, M.D., F.A.C.S.Executive Vice President & CMOBeaumont HospitalRoyal Oak, Michigan 48073 USA





Juan José de Benito
Urologist
Hospital Nacional de Clínicas
Córdoba, Argentina.


William E. Nantau B.Sc., CNIMClinical ManagerClinical Neurophysiology DepartmentBeaumont Hospital Royal Oak


Evan J Kass MD,FACS,FAAPChief, Division of Pediatric UrologyBeaumont Childrens HospitalProfessor of Urology, Oakland University-William Beaumont School of Medicine


Jacques Corcos MD.Professor of Urology, McGill UniversityGeneral Secretary of the International Continence SocietyJewish General hospital3755 Cote Ste-CatherineMontreal, Quebec, Canada H3T 1E2


Jose Gonzalez, M.D.
Department of Urology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan




Christopher Payne, MD
Associate Professor of Urology
Stanford University Medical School
Stanford, CA 94305-5118


Kenneth I. Glassberg, MD
Director, Division of Pediatric Urology
Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital of New York-Presbyterian
Professor of Urology, Columbia University
College of Physicians and Surgeons
3959 Broadway, CHN 1118
Earl Y. Cheng, MD
Associate Professor of Urology
Children’s Memorial Hospital
Chicago, Illinois


Darius J. Bagli, MDCM
Professor of Surgery
Senior Associate Scientist
Director of Urology Research
Divisions of Urology and
Developmental & Stem Cell Biology
The Hospital For Sick Children
Institute of Medical Science
University of Toronto


Henri B. LOTTMANN, MD, FEBU, FEBPS, FRCS(england) FEBPU
Paediatric urology unit
Hopital Necker-Enfants-Malades
149, rue de Sèvres
75015 Paris
France


Dr. Amrish Vaidya MS. MCh.Consultant Paediatric Surgeon,Kokilaben Dhirubhai Ambani Hospital,4 Bungalows, Andheri W, Mumbai, India
Marc Cendron, MD
Associate Professor in Urology
Harvard Medical School
Children’s Hospital Boston
Boston, MA


Stuart B. Bauer, MD
Associate Director, Neurourology
Professor of Urology
Harvard Medical School
Children’s Hospital Boston
Boston, MA




Edmond T. Gonzales, Jr., MD
Professor of Urology
Baylor College of Medicine


Richard Macchia, MD FACS
SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor
Cleveland Clinic, Florida
Benjamin Girdler, MD
Urology Center of the Rockies
Fort Collins, Colorado


William C. de Groat, Ph.D.
Professor of Pharmacology
University of Pittsburgh


Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr., Ph.D.
Director of Urologic Research
Temple University School of Medicine


Stanley J Kogan MDChief, Pediatric UrologyChildren's Hospital at MontefioreBronx NY USA


Anthony Caldamone, MD
University Urologic Associates, Inc.2 Dudley St Ste 185Providence, RI 02905


Yves Homsy MD, FRCSC, FAAP Clinical Professor of Urological Surgery and Pediatrics University of South Florida Children's Urology Group 5507 E. Longboat Blvd Tampa FL 33615


Dr. Enrique Turina
Professor of urology of the National University of Buenos Aires
Chief of section Urology of Instituto de Rehabilitación
Government of Buenos Aires, Argentina.


Dr. Angel Ozón
Urologist of the Instituto de Rehabilitación of Buenos Aires


Dr. Daniel Ekizian
Urologist of Instituto de Rehabilitación.




Professor Dr. med. Karl-Dietrich Sievert
Vice Chair Prof. of Urology, Director - Uro-oncology, Neurourology, Incontinence, & Reconstructive Urology Department of Urology University of Tuebingen D72076 Tuebingen, Germany


Holly Gilmer, MD
Chief of Pediatric Neurosurgery
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan


Yegappan Lakshmanan, MD
Chief, Pediatric Urology
Children’s Hospital of Michigan





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国际学术同仁声援肖传国医生的公开信 译文



http://www.starlakeporch.net/bbs/read.php?1,67653,67653#msg-67653


2010年9月29日


致所有人:


我们都有幸认识肖传国大夫多年。他是一位受国际学术界尊敬的外科医生和科学家,在恢复(脊椎损伤病人的)排尿和排便功能的神经再生研究中,他取得了重大进展。肖传国医生在美国完成了开创性的动物实验研究,阐明支配大腿的运动神经可以用来绕接支配膀胱和排便。这个绕接可以形成一个反射作用(反射弧)来启动来膀胱功能。他研究的成果已经多次发表在同行评议的国际科学期刊上。其他的科学家也已经重复并证实了肖医生的这些研究结果。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


肖医生最终鼓起勇气将动物实验研究的成果转化到临床试验上,在中国的脊柱损伤和脊柱裂病人身上开展神经绕接(神经通路重建,即反射弧)手术。在中国,由于缺乏抗痉挛药物antimuscarinics和间歇性导尿术(自插导尿管),神经性膀胱功能障碍成为一种威胁生命的疾病。能缓解神经性膀胱功能障碍的并发症的疗法,就是一种能够拯救生命的成功。神经性膀胱和排大便功能障碍患者的病情是很痛苦的,包括遭受尿潴留、尿失禁、反复感染、肾功能不全、大便失禁、便秘等,生活质量极差。神经通路重建手术是一个非常复杂的手术,需要神经的再生。不应当把手术的成功定义为完全恢复排便排尿功能。这项手术的重点在于收益超过风险。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


肖医生的临床研究成果发表在多种学术刊物上,并两次获得Jack Lapides佳作奖,这是奖励在神经泌尿科学界作出重要贡献的科学家的最崇高的国际性大奖之一。2008年,因为他的科学成就,肖医生还获得了国际儿童排尿节制学会颁发的Kelm Hjalmas演讲者(受邀做大会主题发言)荣誉。我们当中的许多人都曾经到中国去检视肖医生治疗过的患者的情况,观摩或者学习他发明的神经通路重建手术。肖医生是一位非常有经验的外科医生,他对患者热情照顾,不知疲倦地培训来自世界各地的医生们,来推广他的神经通路重建手术。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


在美国,已经开展过一项独立而且严格的先期试验来检验这项手术的安全性和效益。术后一年的治疗结果最近发表在《泌尿科学杂志》( Journal of Urology)上。在12个月的随访期间,在9位脊髓裂患者中,有7位患者,观察到皮下至膀胱的神经反射弧的构建成立,证明神经通路重建手术的确起了作用。这个成绩是了不起的,肖医生应该得到嘉奖。并且,一部分患者已经展现出大小便排便功能的改善,并将随时间推移而变得更好。术后36个月的成果正在分析中,不久就会发表。该先期试验的数据是支持“肖氏手术”的,现在受NIH(美国国立卫生研究院)资助的临床试验正在开展,以进一步在脊髓裂患者中研究腰椎至骶神经通路重建。还有,在肖医生的帮助和指导下,类似的临床试验也在世界范围内开展。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


中国人民和政府应该为肖医生对病人所作出的贡献、对他的科学成就,和他在世界上培训医生以推广这项手术的诚意而自豪。国际科学界对肖医生被拘捕的消息感到震惊。我们这些了解肖医生的人,都对他涉入此案感到难以置信。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


肖医生是一个极富同情心的绅士,他的诚实和对本学科作出的开创性的科学成就广受世界同行的尊敬。我们恳请中国政府和有关权威机构公正对待肖大夫,并在案情调查期间保障他的基本人权。在此事件中,请重视肖大夫对世界所作出的科学和人道主义事业的贡献。 ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"


谨致




Kenneth M. Peters, MD
Professor and Chairman of Urology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan
(美国Beaumont医院泌尿科主任)


Jack S. Elder, M.D.
Chief of Urology, Henry Ford Health System
Associate Director, Vattikuti Urology Institute
Department of Urology, Children's Hospital of Michigan
Clinical Professor of Urology, Case School of Medicine
(美国密西根儿童医院泌尿科主任)


Edwin A. Smith M.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor of Urology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, Georgia
(美国艾默里大学医学院临床助理教授)


Kevin M. Feber, MD, FAAP
Board Certified in Pediatric Urology
Comprehensive Urology
William Beaumont Children's Hospital
(美国William Beaumont儿童医院医生)


Ananias C. Diokno, M.D., F.A.C.S.Executive Vice President & CMOBeaumont HospitalRoyal Oak, Michigan 48073 USA
(美国Beaumont医院执行副总裁)


Juan José de Benito
Urologist
Hospital Nacional de Clínicas
Córdoba, Argentina.
(阿根廷国立医院)


William E. Nantau B.Sc., CNIMClinical ManagerClinical Neurophysiology DepartmentBeaumont Hospital Royal Oak
(美国Beaumont医院临床神经生理科临床主管)


Evan J Kass MD,FACS,FAAPChief, Division of Pediatric UrologyBeaumont Childrens HospitalProfessor of Urology, Oakland University-William Beaumont School of Medicine
(美国Beaumont儿童医院泌尿科主任,奥克兰大学医学院教授)


Jacques Corcos MD.Professor of Urology, McGill UniversityGeneral Secretary of the International Continence SocietyJewish General hospital3755 Cote Ste-CatherineMontreal, Quebec, Canada H3T 1E2
(加拿大麦基尔大学泌尿学教授,国际儿童排尿节制学会秘书长)


Jose Gonzalez, M.D.
Department of Urology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan
(美国Beaumont医院泌尿科医生)


Christopher Payne, MD
Associate Professor of Urology
Stanford University Medical School
Stanford, CA 94305-5118
(美国斯坦福大学医学院泌尿学副教授)


Kenneth I. Glassberg, MD
Director, Division of Pediatric Urology
Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital of New York-Presbyterian
Professor of Urology, Columbia University
College of Physicians and Surgeons
3959 Broadway, CHN 1118
(美国哥伦比亚大学医学院泌尿学教授,儿童泌尿学分科主任)
Earl Y. Cheng, MD
Associate Professor of Urology
Children’s Memorial Hospital
Chicago, Illinois
(美国芝加哥儿童医院泌尿学副教授)


Darius J. Bagli, MDCM
Professor of Surgery
Senior Associate Scientist
Director of Urology Research
Divisions of Urology and
Developmental & Stem Cell Biology
The Hospital For Sick Children
Institute of Medical Science
University of Toronto
(加拿大多伦多大学外科学教授,泌尿学研究主任)


Henri B. LOTTMANN, MD, FEBU, FEBPS, FRCS(england) FEBPU
Paediatric urology unit
Hopital Necker-Enfants-Malades
149, rue de Sèvres
75015 Paris
France
(法国Necker-Enfants-Malades医院儿童泌尿科医生)


Dr. Amrish Vaidya MS. MCh.Consultant Paediatric Surgeon,Kokilaben Dhirubhai Ambani Hospital,4 Bungalows, Andheri W, Mumbai, India
(印度Kokilaben Dhirubhai Ambani医院医生)
Marc Cendron, MD
Associate Professor in Urology
Harvard Medical School
Children’s Hospital Boston
Boston, MA
(美国哈佛大学医学院泌尿学副教授)


Stuart B. Bauer, MD
Associate Director, Neurourology
Professor of Urology
Harvard Medical School
Children’s Hospital Boston
Boston, MA
(美国哈佛大学医学院泌尿学教授,波士顿儿童医院神经泌尿科副主任)


Edmond T. Gonzales, Jr., MD
Professor of Urology
Baylor College of Medicine
(美国贝勒医学院泌尿学教授)


Richard Macchia, MD FACS
SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor
Cleveland Clinic, Florida
(美国Cleveland临床中心教授)


Benjamin Girdler, MD
Urology Center of the Rockies
Fort Collins, Colorado
(美国科罗拉多洛基泌尿中心医生)


William C. de Groat, Ph.D.
Professor of Pharmacology
University of Pittsburgh
(美国匹兹堡大学药理学教授)


Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr., Ph.D.
Director of Urologic Research
Temple University School of Medicine
(美国坦普大学医学院泌尿学研究主任)


Stanley J Kogan MDChief, Pediatric UrologyChildren's Hospital at MontefioreBronx NY USA
(美国Montefiore儿童医院儿童泌尿科主任)


Anthony Caldamone, MD
University Urologic Associates, Inc.2 Dudley St Ste 185Providence, RI 02905
(美国布朗大学泌尿学中心医生)


Yves Homsy MD, FRCSC, FAAP Clinical Professor of Urological Surgery and Pediatrics University of South Florida Children's Urology Group 5507 E. Longboat Blvd Tampa FL 33615
(美国南弗罗里达大学临床泌尿学教授)


Dr. Enrique Turina
Professor of urology of the National University of Buenos Aires
Chief of section Urology of Instituto de Rehabilitación
Government of Buenos Aires, Argentina.
(阿根廷国立Buenos Aires大学泌尿学教授)


Dr. Angel Ozón
Urologist of the Instituto de Rehabilitación of Buenos Aires
(阿根廷国立Buenos Aires大学泌尿学医生)


Dr. Daniel Ekizian
Urologist of Instituto de Rehabilitación.
(阿根廷国立Buenos Aires大学泌尿学医生)


Professor Dr. med. Karl-Dietrich Sievert
Vice Chair Prof. of Urology, Director - Uro-oncology, Neurourology, Incontinence, & Reconstructive Urology Department of Urology University of Tuebingen D72076 Tuebingen, Germany
(德国Tuebingen大学泌尿学教授、主任)


Holly Gilmer, MD
Chief of Pediatric Neurosurgery
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, Michigan
(美国Beaumont医院儿童神经外科主任)


Yegappan Lakshmanan, MD
Chief, Pediatric Urology
Children’s Hospital of Michigan
(美国密西根儿童医院儿童泌尿科主任)





[ 5:8016 ] 凸显方狗无耻(吴.村.赏.岩) - 08:55:43 09/30/2010 *** 回 帖


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方舟子学术抄袭在前, 被告诽谤获罪在前, 该报复的是方,所以袭击案必然是假
不过中国司法系统之黑大家有目共睹, 这次帮助买办自毁长城而大家无动于衷,最后倒霉的是中华民族。
[ 6:94 ] 香椿树(辽.斋.绛.楼) - 09:28:38 09/30/2010 *** 回 帖


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我个人感觉这个事件也就是方给肖下的一个套,作案人马都是方安排好
的(也注意搜寻到肖的远房亲戚什么的),每个人都给好价钱,也确实让他们去找肖 --- 肖只要和这些人接触了就百口难辩,自然的,被抓起来后主动认罪就成为肖的最佳选择甚至是唯一选择 --- 于是便出现了10万块买个轻伤的可笑局面。


我以前在国内工作时看到过一个官斗实例,其中一方也采用了类似做法,具体手法略有不同,主要利用的是对方的男女关系问题。


其实中国历史上这种做法本来就没少过,就是看穿越小说,也能发现很多穿越人士用下套的做法来整古代对手的。





[ 7:429 ] 插一句(周.宫.赤.岩) - 09:47:33 09/30/2010 *** 回 帖
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